not from the government. but you either have to go to the government plan or the government makes you buy private health insurance. >> bill: so either the government plan or the private, but you're mandated to buy it? >> or pay a penalty. >> bill: if you don't. >> 2, 3,000 bucks. >> bill: okay. in order to go under the 50, they're giving people part-time work. >> which means less than 30 hours a week. 28 hours in their case. >> bill: why is that bad? >> it's bad because more people want full time work. and it steers people into shorter time jobs. >> bill: all right. so the individual worker doesn't make as much money even if they want to. then they have to get another part-time job, someplace else to make up for the shortfall. so it makes -- the whole thing makes it rougher for the folks, for the working folks. >> all government mandates do. >> i know. you always come back to that. >> bill: this is actually constraining the economic recovery by keeping unemployment artificially high. >> and i would say all of